In Cab Tank Too Big?
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In Cab Tank Too Big?
We recently scored a 1969 F100 Ranger, 2WD. The stock seat will not travel all the way back, where the seat back completely covers the in cab gas tank, it's about 2.5" shy of going all the way back. The previous owner had installed a small diameter aftermarket steering wheel to cope with the cramped situation.
We just removed the seat, and the ratty old carpet to clean the interior, and check for floor board rust (very little!). The gas tank is painted the same color as the cab, which makes it look original, but the tank appears to be too big for the truck. It's too thick through the middle, the seat hits it right at the thickest part, and it even causes the rear wall of the cab to bulge out about an inch, and "oil can" when we drive it, due to constant rearward pressure from the seat! The tank has mount bolts at the top, which appear stock, but the bottom is a good 2 inches from 2 mounting channels, where the lower flange of the tank should slip into.
The truck is in great shape, and has the left bed side mount auxiliary tank, but it hasn't been used in some time due to a frozen selector valve. We are about to remove the in cab tank, and clean out the side mount tank to run as the primary. Junk yards around here are pretty light on pre 1973 F100 parts, just a few gutted relics without tanks.
Looking for some guidance, and we would be happy with the extra in-cab room with the tank removed.
We just removed the seat, and the ratty old carpet to clean the interior, and check for floor board rust (very little!). The gas tank is painted the same color as the cab, which makes it look original, but the tank appears to be too big for the truck. It's too thick through the middle, the seat hits it right at the thickest part, and it even causes the rear wall of the cab to bulge out about an inch, and "oil can" when we drive it, due to constant rearward pressure from the seat! The tank has mount bolts at the top, which appear stock, but the bottom is a good 2 inches from 2 mounting channels, where the lower flange of the tank should slip into.
The truck is in great shape, and has the left bed side mount auxiliary tank, but it hasn't been used in some time due to a frozen selector valve. We are about to remove the in cab tank, and clean out the side mount tank to run as the primary. Junk yards around here are pretty light on pre 1973 F100 parts, just a few gutted relics without tanks.
Looking for some guidance, and we would be happy with the extra in-cab room with the tank removed.
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Re: In Cab Tank Too Big?
If you have the frame mounted tank like the one in this article http://www.fordification.com/tech/fueltank01.htm (half way down the page), I would focus my attention on getting that one useable and ditch the in cab tank. It's plenty big enough to act as your primary. You can also look into the frame mounted Mustang tank swap. http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... =7&t=46022
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Re: In Cab Tank Too Big?
The in cab tank I have bulges towards the bottom way more than the one in the photos! Thanks for the info, I will be yanking it out!
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Re: In Cab Tank Too Big?
can you post photos of it? i want to see what is going on.
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Re: In Cab Tank Too Big?
I got the tank syphoned out (about 17 gallons!), and removed it tonight. The rear of the tank had three good sized outward bulges which rested against the rear of the cab. There are 3 raised/ribbed areas stamped into the rear of the cab that aligned with the bulges, and they are all dented outward. I will post some pics tomorrow.
Not sure how the tank could have gotten damaged, maybe it was removed and got damaged outside of the truck, after 49 years who knows?
I could probably hammer them inward, and keep the tank, but I like the extra room there is with it out of the cab.
Not sure how the tank could have gotten damaged, maybe it was removed and got damaged outside of the truck, after 49 years who knows?
I could probably hammer them inward, and keep the tank, but I like the extra room there is with it out of the cab.
1969 F100 Ranger LWB 2WD, PS, PB, 428/C6, 3.50 to 1 gears, 31 spline chromoly axles with a Yukon Grizzly Locker.
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If you don't want to butcher up your truck bed, (by installing the mustang tank) and never be able to haul anything 8 foot long again (by having a fuel filler coming up in the center of the bed...
Then you should consider the EB tank and you can then utilize the dentside gas filler door, (grafted into the side of your truck bed):
https://shop.broncograveyard.com/1966-1 ... /10201KIT/
Then you should consider the EB tank and you can then utilize the dentside gas filler door, (grafted into the side of your truck bed):
https://shop.broncograveyard.com/1966-1 ... /10201KIT/
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Re: In Cab Tank Too Big?
I used one to get by in my plow truck, (strapped in the back) , the only problem I see is capacity .basketcase0302 wrote:Then you should consider the EB tank and you can then utilize the dentside gas filler door, (grafted into the side of your truck bed):
I thought I heard about someone using a International Scout tank ,that has a side fill tube and holds 19 gallons.
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Re: In Cab Tank Too Big?
NWDave: If I was a betting man, I would guess that the truck may have sat for some time, without a gas cap, and that the water that got in FROZE expanding the tank??
You may be able to use some BFFI (Brute Force & F'n Ignorance) to get it closer to it's oringinal shape, but a bit of forethought and some finesse may net a better result :wnk:
But if the extra leg room available by removing the In Cab Tank outweighs the fuel capacity, then I would concentrate efforts on restoring the side tank to usable condition.
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You may be able to use some BFFI (Brute Force & F'n Ignorance) to get it closer to it's oringinal shape, but a bit of forethought and some finesse may net a better result :wnk:
But if the extra leg room available by removing the In Cab Tank outweighs the fuel capacity, then I would concentrate efforts on restoring the side tank to usable condition.
James
NWDave wrote:I got the tank syphoned out (about 17 gallons!), and removed it tonight. The rear of the tank had three good sized outward bulges which rested against the rear of the cab. There are 3 raised/ribbed areas stamped into the rear of the cab that aligned with the bulges, and they are all dented outward. I will post some pics tomorrow.
Not sure how the tank could have gotten damaged, maybe it was removed and got damaged outside of the truck, after 49 years who knows?
I could probably hammer them inward, and keep the tank, but I like the extra room there is with it out of the cab.
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Re: In Cab Tank Too Big?
I spoke to some locals, and 2 guys had similar problems with a Ford, and a Chevy truck with in-cab tanks. Both were caused by unvented gas caps, coupled with a full tank in the Summer sun!
I have the factory under the bed tank, with the left side fill, so it will be my primary tank.
I have the factory under the bed tank, with the left side fill, so it will be my primary tank.
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Re: In Cab Tank Too Big?
I sold some fuel line yesterday and that topic came up, (how many "gas stations per trip")."cep62"]basketcase0302 wrote:Then you should consider the EB tank and you can then utilize the dentside gas filler door, (grafted into the side of your truck bed):
I used one to get by in my plow truck, (strapped in the back) , the only problem I see is capacity .
I thought I heard about someone using a International Scout tank ,that has a side fill tube and holds 19 gallons.
Here's a 23 gallon tank that bolts between the rear frame rails of the bump but hang onto your wallet!
https://shop.broncograveyard.com/1966-1 ... nfo/10204/
Jeff
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SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
Many Ford bumps / one 76' EB / and several dents through the years.
A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
2008 Ford Escape 4 x 4
http://www.fordification.com/forum/view ... 22&t=46251
SOLD-71 F-350 dually flatbed, 302 / .030 over V-8 with a "baby"C-6, B & M truckshifter, Dana70/4.11 ratio, intermittent wipers, tilt steering, full LED lighting on the flat bed, and no stereo yet (this way I can hear the rattles to diagnose)! SOLD!
Many Ford bumps / one 76' EB / and several dents through the years.
A lot of "oddball" Ford parts collected from working on them for 34 years now!
2008 Ford Escape 4 x 4